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Women in Robotics

“Badass Young Women and Passion Projects” 

-Interview with Girls Robot Founder Lee Jin-joo


By Kang Ye-won
Published Aug. 2, 2017
Translated by Kang Ye-won
  
 Editor’s note: This is an interview series in which Korean millennials talk about their passion projects for equality.

“What can women do better in robotics?”

Dr. Park Hye-won put this question to the audience at the conference “Girls in Robotics”, which was held in December 2015.

“Women could be better with humanoid robots that communicate with humans-?”
“Because of women’s child-rearing experience, could they have an advantage with domestic robots?”

People in the audience muttered their answers with uncertainty as others just nodded their heads.

“The answer I was looking for is that the question itself is wrong. There is no certain field where women are naturally superior to men, and vice versa.”

In other words, when people say, “As more women join the robotics field, it improves diversity”, the term “diversity” simply refers to more ways of different individuals trying to solve problems, rather than who can do better at what.
From JeongMee Yoon’s “The Pink & Blue Project (2005-ongoing) @ jeongmeeyoon.com/aw_pinkblue.htm

Although that kind of stereotypical gendered thinking may sound outdated, it is still commonplace, and easily seen in children’s toys. Photographer JeongMee Yoon’s “The Pink & Blue Project” was first introduced 10 years ago, but gendered toys are still rampant.

Girls Robot is a social startup that attempts to change the path for youth and allow them to find out what they’re good at and what they’re interested in without the influence of social bias and pressure.

“Imagine the field of science is outer space- there are so many stars, each all by itself without knowing what to do or what it wants. That’s like women in science. I wanted to have them come together like the Milky Way,” the founder and CEO, Lee Jin-joo, wrote on its website.

Just by looking at Jin-joo’s resume, it is not apparent that she is a sucker for robots. Her fashion style (Girls Robot’s team shirts with a pink and purple logo, and a colorful tutu skirt) emanates the “refreshing” energy of a robotics fan.
Lee Jin-joo, the founder of Girls Robot. © Girls Robot

Jin-joo excelled in science from a young age and enrolled at the Seoul Science Specialized High School. In university, she majored in mechanical engineering before changing her major to journalism. After graduation, she was hired by the JoongAng Daily News organization and worked as a journalist. Later, after she married and became the mother of two boys, she quit her job in Seoul and moved to Jeju to become a full-time mom.

One day, she was watching the news on TV and saw her high school classmate, Prof. Park Il-woo of Kwangwoon University, making headlines as the “Father of Hubo.” He was one of key researchers behind the team that created “Hubo”, a robot which won the best rescue humanoid robot prize at the DARPA Robotics Challenge at that time.

“I was shocked to see the stark difference between my friend and I, and remembered the time when we were studying side-by-side in high school. While he had moved forward and began making robots, I was stuck behind as I had a family and raised kids. So I secretly began my ‘otaku’ obsession with robots.”

Around that time, coincidently, she was invited as the one and only woman robot expert to speak at Kwangwoon University. When she was talking to the aspiring students in the college robotics club, she had a eureka moment, realizing that this was her calling in the field: to support more young women in entering into STEM (science, technology, engineering and math) fields and possibly into robotics. Within six months, she had launched Girls Robot.
 In the first two years, she spent her private funds to promote the social startup, helping female university students in STEM fields network with each other and start other clubs such as the “FC High Heels” at KAIST and “Lady Bug,” a women programmers club.

“I first met with a lot of STEM women students on college campuses. They had the hunger for opportunities, so I only helped them with the ‘seeding’ and the rest of the network just bloomed across the cities. And people from outside STEM fields wanted to partner with us, too, so our network has grown even larger. We now have a network of about 1,000 people.”
At the “2017 Science Parade Together” on April 22 in front of Sejong Cultural Center. Lee Se-ri is in the middle. © Girls Robot

One member of Girls Robot, Lee Se-ri, is just as much a robotics geek as Lee Jin-joo is. Se-ri is a senior student at Kookmin University majoring in mechanical systems engineering.

With her denim overall shorts and brightly-colored bob with bangs, she has an unusual look for a woman engineer, similar to Jin-joo’s. It must be the dress code for the Girls Robot.

Se-ri is the ultimate multi-tasker in the team, even writing articles and taking photos for its social media accounts, Jin-joo proudly said during the interview. “And she still finds the time to play in a band.”

Since she was young, Se-ri’s favorite subject was physics. (“When I first learned Newton’s second law, F=MA, it was so amazing that it seemed like the answer to any problem!”) Upon joining a robot soccer club in college, she fell in love with humanoid robots, enjoying every part of labor involving machines from soldering to programming. Lately in her free time, she’s into making a non-toxic menstrual cup using 3D printing.

The Robo Cup (robocup.org) is an annual global competition that first started in Japan in 1997. Its mission is to make a robot soccer team that can beat a World Cup championship human team by 2050.

When Se-ri enrolled in the mechanical engineering department at her university, she was one of 20 women students in a class of 120. In the automotive engineering major, there were only two women. And she was the first woman to join a robot soccer club in the country, though a second female student eventually joined her.

“There are instances which make you uncomfortable just because you’re the only woman in the group. For instance, the guys often play jokgu, and because I’m not as fit as them, I find myself just cheering on the side or taking photos of their game.”

When the team members had to pull all-nighters before the Robo Cup games, guys would share a bed in the lab, but Saeri felt too uncomfortable to join them so she often missed out.

But whenever her team won the competitions, it helped carry her through the “lonely” times in the club.

“Most recently, we had a competition in Brazil, and during free time we played soccer a lot. Thanks to the professor who declared, ‘Same rules for boys and girls!’, I was included in playing head-to-head with the guys. I loved it!” 

Moving, making, and sometimes breaking robots would be an “expensive” hobby for an individual, Se-ri says, and so it requires more than just interest and willpower. The two people that are most responsible for providing a conducive environment and encouraging her passion are the professor who leads her robot soccer club, and Lee Jin-joo.
At the “2017 Science Parade Together” on April 22 in front of Sejong Cultural Center.
© Girls Robot

It was a slightly bumpier road for Jin-joo in her journey of passion for robotics.

Jin-joo first faced discrimination when she was at Seoul Science Specialized High School. It was a top specialized school in which students were highly competitive regardless of gender, but she noticed that only boys ran for the class election and the girls were asked to be assistants or dancing cheerleaders for them during the campaign.  

 Following the path of her father, who was an engineer, she went to a university with a strong engineering department. At that time, it was even rarer for women to major in STEM and the discrimination was less subtle than now. One of Jin-joo’s  teaching assistants made sexual advances to her, and when she refused him, she was punished with unfair grades in the class.

The year that she was hired at JoongAng Daily News organization was the first ever in which women outnumbered men among new hires, and older male employees would say about this, half-jokingly, that “either women have become smarter or the status of the journalism field has gone down”.

Now as a 39-year-old woman in the startup business, Jin-joo is part of the only 10 percent of founders who are women. She has learned the hard way that inequality is not just limited to the STEM fields and the glass ceiling is everywhere.

And that’s where Girls Robot’s mission comes in. She aims to lift the number of women in STEM up to 30 percent from the current 15 percent. In a broader sense, she envisions a world where people can do what they are good at and like to do regardless of their gender, age, sexual orientation, appearance, etc.
At Girls Robot’s booth for children at the “2017 Science Parade Together”. © Girls Robot 

Most recently, Girls Robot is trying to promote the maker movement in Korea. Every Friday, it hosts a “Girls Day”, inviting speakers and offering workshops. One of the programs is called the “Pink Lab Attack,” in which the Girls Robot members attack fab labs across the major cities and give a makeover of their tools with pink colors and decorations.

“To break the stereotype that pink and machine tools don’t go together, we’re showing the extreme of the femininity. This makes ideas in the middle ground easier to accept.”

If, in the past, women in STEM fields tried to hide or erase their femininity, Girls Robot is trying to show that today’s feminist students are different, and that women can do excellent research while wearing fishnet stockings and high heels.

Girls Robot also offers workshops in which fathers and daughters can put together robot kits or build things with Legos, as well as “Geek Girls”, in which young women learn simple coding or soldering.
At a gender talk hosted by Dotface and Girls Robot, with presidential candidate Shim Sang-jung (center). © Girls Robot

In robotics, and especially when it comes to humanoids, which look and function more and more like humans, today’s research areas are expanding beyond just mechanical engineering and computer programming to humanities such as art, ethics and philosophy. Artificial intelligence and cyborgs are no longer limited to Hollywood movies but are becoming part of our everyday lives.

Last year, people around the world were struck with both shock and amazement when the world Go champion Lee Se-dol was crushed by Google DeepMind’s AI, AlphaGo. Elon Musk, the CEO of Tesla, claims that bio-artificial intelligence (the combination of machine and human intelligence) will be needed to prepare for AI’s increasing superiority, and recently launched a startup called Neuralink, which works on implantable brain-computer interfaces.

In the social dialogue about digital humanities, technofeminism was born. For example, Nature recently published an article about the artificial womb that grew a baby sheep, causing a stir. If this technology later gets applied to human babies, what are the social implications for women’s pregnancy and labor?

This makes it clearer why the "diversity" that Girls Robot talks about – that is, diversity of perspectives and experiences that go beyond the dichotomous thinking and prejudices that put up divisions between the sciences and the humanities, or between men and women, and the resulting sensibility – is so important.

About the Author: Kang Ye-won lives in Seoul. She used to work for a foreign news agency, and is now the editor of PLATOON, a magazine about underground art culture.




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